
This year a long time friend of mine, Ayanna Watson, founded an organization called Black Atheists of America. Because religion is so deeply ingrained in the black community, black atheists often find themselves as a dual minority in the overall atheist community. BAAm hopes that its efforts will build a stronger overall atheist community by encouraging black atheists to be open about their stance on religion. A couple weeks back I went to the New York City Atheists Brunch, which was hosted by Ayanna. There she spoke about her journey from religious ambivalence, to belief, to Atheism.
One of the things that struck me most about both of our walks in and out of faith was how similar they were. Ayanna and I both grew up in the same predominantly black town and we both grew up in non-religious households. Our first major steps toward faith were both taken when we began attending Long Island Lutheran Middle and High School. We both found a certain measure of intellectual enlightenment in college and that enlightenment made us question our faith. That’s where our stories begin to part. For her, when reconciling on all she’d experienced against her new found knowledge, the concept of organized religion and belief in a God was for her, irrevocably conflicted. For me, it was the opposite. When looking back on all I’d experienced, I knew in the incomprehensible places where my own logic and reason were incapable of venturing, that something exists beyond what our eyes might perceive.
One of the most frequent criticisms of Christianity is that Christians are close minded and unwilling to respect or appreciate differing opinions. That is why I went to the NYC Atheists Brunch and that is why, in today’s post I want to offer a place for honest, respectful conversation around our varying walks in and out of the faith. To that end, I’m going to ask Ayanna five questions about being an atheist, and I’m going to answer five questions from her about being a Christian.

Who Says Christians Can't Chill With The Hell Bound ... j/k
1. What do you think is the biggest misconception about atheism, or black atheism and does your organization do anything to actively combat this misconception?
The biggest misconception is that it is inherently wrong or evil. There
are currently thousands of religions that are practiced around the world.
Most people do not realize that they view many other religions the same
way that atheists view all religions. They do not, however, consider
their disbelief toward these religions to be a characteristic of an
inherently evil individual.
Yes, my organization strives to rid society, particularly the black
community, of the stigma associated with the word “atheist.” There are
many atheists in the black community who are afraid to come out because
they fear being ostracized by friends and family members who do not share
their views on religion. Since I have started the organization, I have
met a number of people who have actually been ostracized from their family
and friends because of their lack of belief.
My organization also engages in a number of community service projects,
mainly geared toward improving education in the black community. Many
atheists identify as humanists. They have a passion to help build a
better society, but do not want their efforts to be associated with
religion. My organization provides them with the opportunity to do that.
2. Does your organization, Black Atheists of America seek to convert
believers and those ambivalent toward religion to Atheism, or is it solely
a place where folks who are already settled in their non-belief can
congregate with like minded individuals?
No, I do not want to deconvert believers into non-believers. I provide a
community where atheists can come together and discuss issues that are of
importance to them. I, also, provide a place for individuals who are
questioning their religion or have an interest in the atheist community to
seek and obtain information. I do not recall any events where there was
not at least one theist in attendance.
Humans are social being. People meet for many different reasons. It is
not something that is exclusive to a church. For instance, there are
groups that provide support for female entrepreneurs. It allows people of
like-minds to come together and share their thoughts.
3. When discussing your path to Atheism, you spoke at great length about
the impact of your Philosophy 101 class at Brooklyn College. Tell me more
about what you learned in that class and how it pushed your toward
atheism.
In the class we discussed the works of prominent historical philosophers.
The essays that we were required to read were the blueprint for developing
critical thinking skills. Each essay laid out the author’s claim and
provided reasoning and evidence to support the claim. In some of the
essays, you could travel through the mind of the philosopher as they come
to their conclusion. A great author in philosophy is honest and addresses
flaws in their argument. I had not been introduced to this style of
writing prior to this class. It seems simple, but this is the complete
opposite of textbook writings that I had been previously exposed to.
I was already a Deist by the time I took this course. I applied the
approach used in these essays to every aspect of my belief system. I was
pushed over the edge because of the obvious contradictions in the
characteristics of god(s). For example, it is impossible for a god to be
omnipotent and omniscient. The two cannot co-exist. Furthermore, the two
are independently inconsistent with freewill.
When you remove god(s) from the equation, everything makes sense. For
instance, there is starvation in the world. Also, in every award show, a
majority of the individuals who win thank a higher power for their
success. We could believe that there is a god that is allowing us to
destroy ourselves while granting awards to some of the most affluent
persons in society or remove god from the equation, altogether. In my
opinion, it makes more sense that we are ultimately responsible for our
successes and the starvation of others.
4. When discussing your time in Christianity, you mentioned that you’d
spent time praying for things and seeking God’s guidance on issues you’d
been unable to reconcile on your own. In those times, did you ever feel
like you had a prayer answered? Can you remember a time where you felt like your prayers went unanswered? Did either of those impact your overall ideas
about the existence of God?

Pictures Like This Make You Question God's Existence
The main prayer that I remember as a young child asked god to feed the
starving children in Africa. When I was younger, various organizations
use to show graphic commercials of starving children. I use to pray and
fast at school, in an effort to make sure that they were fed. I had
convinced myself that if I did not eat, these children would eat. After
all of my hard work, I would come home and see the same commercial on
television. It was extremely frustrating that god would not allow these
children to live a healthy life.
As got older, I prayed for small things, here and there. There were times
when I felt that my prayers were answered. There were plenty of times
when I felt that they were not answered. Back then, I wrote it off as it
not being in “God’s will.” The prayers that were “answered” were not
done so without an effort on my part. Now, that I do not believe and
never pray, my outcome of things that I wish for is far greater.
I am sure that this had an affect on my deconversion. Prior to leaving
high school, I had already converted from Christianity to Deism. Toward
the end of my high school career, I hardly ever prayed. I do not think my
decision not to pray had much to do with the ratio of answered prayers to
non-answered prayers. Instead, because I believed that god was
omniscient, I did not see the purpose of prayer.
5. Since you’ve come to accept your own atheism, have you had any romantic
relationships with persons of faith? How did the differences in belief
effect the relationship? If you haven’t had a relationship with a
believer, do you think you could?
Yes, I have had romantic relationships. I have never dated an extremely
religious guy. I’ve had one serious relationship with a non-practicing
Christian. Our differences in belief were never at issue. Religion was
not important to either one of us, so it was hardly a topic that was up
for discussion. Our relationship ended due to issues that were
independent of our religious differences.
Since I have become an activist in the atheist community, I have only
dated other atheists. Hence, it has never been a problem.
In all likelihood, I probably would not be able to have a serious
relationship with a practicing theist. I could, however, likely date a
Deist. Religion is something that I will have to expose my future
children to. I want to expose them to religion, not simply the religion
of my partner. Instead, I would like to have them well versed in culture,
which includes a wide variety of polytheistic and monotheistic religions.
This concept of giving equal credence to all religions is difficult for
many theists, who by nature believe that their religion is superior to
other religions. I do not want to influence the child one way or another.
I want to give the child the opportunity to choose whatever religion they
feel comfortable with or the lack thereof.
Questions for Most:
1. How would you label your religious affiliation? How would you describe
your belief system? What are the traits of your higher being? Does your
higher being have the power to intervene in individual and personal
events?
I am a Christian. First and foremost I believe in a singular God who sent his son Jesus to bridge the gap between him and I. I don’t know if I can say that I know the traits of God. I guess I think of God the way most people think of their father. You believe you know your father, but really all you know of him is what he decides to show. In my life I’ve known God to be present. I believe that God has the ability to intervene in individual and personal events and have experienced it at varying times in my life. Whether his intervention has been to change the situation, or change me, I’ve felt it happen.
2. Do you believe that there is evidence of your higher being? If so,
what is the evidence? If not, why are you convinced of the existence of
your higher being? Is there any amount of evidence that could convince
you to convert to another religion or deconvert altogether?

Apologetics
I’ve never been one for apologetics. You can read stuff by guys like Keller and Strobel that’s pretty interesting and relevant but it’s never been my cup of tea. It’s not that I don’t think it’s possible to apply what is considered logic and reason to spirituality and religion, it’s just that I’ve always thought it was kind of counter productive and unnecessary. I think the idea of having faith in an unseen, almighty, and omnipotent being who never speaks to you in an audible voice is inherently illogical and unreasonable. One of the things I’ve always been intrigued by, when it comes to Atheism, is that it seems atheists only require proof for things unseen when it comes to religion and spirituality. I think there are plenty of other unseen forces that impact our lives daily that we cannot prove exist. One example being the entire spectrum of human emotion – from love to hate. We cannot explain human emotion or prove that it as anything more than a chemical reaction taking place somewhere in our brain. My point is, trying to produce evidence for or against God’s existence, for me, would be like trying to produce evidence that love exists between my wife and I or between a mother and child. There’s nothing I can show you that proves that and there’s nothing you can show me that proves it’s not there. In many ways God, for me, is a feeling that rests somewhere down in the deepest parts of our existence in the same places where we hold things like love and hate. I don’t have to prove it’s there to know it’s there.
3. What do you think accounts for the variety of belief systems practiced
around the world, many of which are in direct conflict with each other?
I think at the heart of every belief system is the desire to reconcile a seemingly inexplicable emotional event and translate it for those of have yet to experience it. Siddhārtha Gautama sits under a tree meditating for a month and a half until he reaches what he believes to be a higher spiritual plane – one where a greater understanding of the material world is revealed to him. He returns, reconciles what happened and when he translates that emotional event we get the four noble truths and the eightfold path which become the foundations of Buddhism.
Unhappy with big city life Muhammad decides to withdraw from society and go kick it in a cave for a while. There he fasts, meditates and reflects on all that he’s seen and experienced. After a time he begins to have visions and eventually a new and deeper understanding is revealed to him. The angel Gabriel then explains to him the basic tenants of what eventually becomes the Islamic faith.
These are just two examples but my point is, in almost all religions there is revelation through meditation and then there is translation of that revelation for those who didn’t experience it. I’m not arrogant enough to say that I know for certain what happened to Siddhartha as he sat under that tree or what happened to Muhammed in that cave or how God told Abraham to leave Canaan or what Jesus felt when John the Baptist pulled him up out of the water. I believe in each of those cases something happened – something life changing. I believe those guys spent the rest of their lives trying to explain it and subsequent events they experienced after it. The differences in each religion, in my mind come when human desires start entering into each translation of these events. In truth, I can’t tell you which one is right or which one is wrong. Some Christians might consider that to be a weakness in my faith. All I really know is what I’ve experienced. Like many folks, I’ve studied tons of religions, but it wasn’t until I started taking steps toward Jesus that I began to feel something. With each step I took, I felt more and more of God’s existence being revealed to me and so I’ve been walking in that direction ever since.
4. Does your higher being desire to improve the status of humanity?
Please explain.
I think God’s desire is that we all live our earthly lives with the understanding that were our existence a beach, our time here on earth would be like a single grain of sand when compared to eternity. So, does he want to improve the status of humanity – I guess, but I think more than that, he wants us to understand that our happiness or unhappiness should not be based on what we’re experiencing here.
5. What is your view of atheists? How many of your friends are atheists?
Of them, how many of them are minorities? If you do not know of any
within your circle of friends, do you think it’s possible that any of them
are reluctant to express their position on religion?
When I look out at my circle of friends, I think the vast majority of them would express some sort of belief in some sort of single deity. Within that, some would be considered super religious, some would consider themselves spiritual but not religious, and some would just be too busy with living their lives to concern themselves with trying to understand any beliefs or feelings they might have. I can recall on varying occasions a friend mentioning that they were an atheist. I like to think that I’m a pretty open minded person so I don’t think any of my friends would be uncomfortable sharing their Atheism with me. I hope not at least. Of course, as a Christian I hope that everyone I know and everyone I ever meet is somehow pushed toward a better relationship with God from having known me. This would include my atheist friends. At the same time, I try to be respectful of everyone’s way of thinking and way of approaching spirituality and religion. I think a little bit of respect goes a long way in making the earth more inhabitable for those of us going to heaven and the rest of you heathens. <– that’s a joke.
That’s it folks. Hope you enjoyed this post. I definitely enjoyed writing it, reading more about Ayanna’s beliefs and sharing some of mine. Regardless of what you believe, let’s try and keep it civil in the comments section today. Feel free to share your open and honest opinions. You can answer some of the questions I’ve asked Ayanna or some of the questions she asked me. I’m also interested in knowing how some of you came to be of faith or not of faith. What were the key moments in your life that helped you confirm or reject the existence of a God? What role has religion or spirituality played in your love life? What impact does culture have on religion or spirituality? Lastly for more information on Ayanna’s organization you can check out their website here: Black Atheists of America or email them at: blackatheists@gmail.com.
It’s Monday, it’s hot and muggy and it’s supposed to be like this all week. Best thing any of us can do is stay low and keep firing.